WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Fortunes Hiding 9:08 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
no one else got masters?...

Gavros 8:38 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Ive got a masters degree.

That makes me the best person on WHO by a country mile.

yogib 8:14 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
My old boss at Bridge Information Systems started off as a tea boy at Reuters many moons ago, ended up being the CEO of Dow Jones Capital Markets then at Bridge where I worked - things were clearly different back then, but there are still opportunities at supposedly lower levels in the banking world where you can earn decent money and bonuses - the perm receptionists at the likes of Deutsche, CSFB, BAML,UBS etc wear Rolex or Cartier watches or better - and looking at some of them they ain't got them through shagging a banker.

Re-Insurance is another area where there are opportunities, good luck to your boy, hope he gets a decent job.

Mr Kenzo 7:59 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Hahahahahahahahahaha

PwoperNaughtyButNot 7:48 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Whilst your busy looking and to allow the original poster to have the correct information:

England, Wales and Northern Ireland

There are 9 qualification levels.

Entry level
Each entry level qualification is available at three sub-levels - 1, 2 and 3. Entry level 3 is the most difficult.

Entry level qualifications are:

entry level award
entry level certificate (ELC)
entry level diploma
entry level English for speakers of other languages (ESOL)
entry level essential skills
entry level functional skills
Skills for Life
Level 1
Level 1 qualifications are:

first certificate
GCSE - grades 3, 2, 1 or grades D, E, F, G
level 1 award
level 1 certificate
level 1 diploma
level 1 ESOL
level 1 essential skills
level 1 functional skills
level 1 national vocational qualification (NVQ)
music grades 1, 2 and 3
Level 2
Level 2 qualifications are:

CSE - grade 1
GCSE - grades 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4 or grades A*, A, B, C
intermediate apprenticeship
level 2 award
level 2 certificate
level 2 diploma
level 2 ESOL
level 2 essential skills
level 2 functional skills
level 2 national certificate
level 2 national diploma
level 2 NVQ
music grades 4 and 5
O level - grade A, B or C
Level 3
Level 3 qualifications are:

A level
access to higher education diploma
advanced apprenticeship
applied general
AS level
international Baccalaureate diploma
level 3 award
level 3 certificate
level 3 diploma
level 3 ESOL
level 3 national certificate
level 3 national diploma
level 3 NVQ
music grades 6, 7 and 8
tech level
Level 4
Level 4 qualifications are:

certificate of higher education (CertHE)
higher apprenticeship
higher national certificate (HNC)
level 4 award
level 4 certificate
level 4 diploma
level 4 NVQ
Level 5
Level 5 qualifications are:

diploma of higher education (DipHE)
foundation degree
higher national diploma (HND)
level 5 award
level 5 certificate
level 5 diploma
level 5 NVQ
Level 6
Level 6 qualifications are:

degree apprenticeship
degree with honours - for example bachelor of the arts (BA) hons, bachelor of science (BSc) hons
graduate certificate
graduate diploma
level 6 award
level 6 certificate
level 6 diploma
level 6 NVQ
ordinary degree without honours
Level 7
Level 7 qualifications are:

integrated master’s degree, for example master of engineering (MEng)
level 7 award
level 7 certificate
level 7 diploma
level 7 NVQ
master’s degree, for example master of arts (MA), master of science (MSc)
postgraduate certificate
postgraduate certificate in education (PGCE)
postgraduate diploma
Level 8
Level 8 qualifications are:

doctorate, for example doctor of philosophy (PhD or DPhil)
level 8 award
level 8 certificate
level 8 diploma

PwoperNaughtyButNot 7:40 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Block a level 4 qualification is not a degree.

I don’t want to argue about it as it is a fact.

Whether someone wants to call their apprenticeship a level 4 is a different matter.

- degree is a level 6 qualification.
A masters is a level 7

A level 4 is and HNC equivalent

A level 5 is an HND equivalent


Happy to be proved wrong with imperial evidence. Good luck finding it.

Block 4:20 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Could argue you didn't give him the relevant training by showing him how to actually use it?

*being sarcastic before anyone gets all mardy

worm 4:16 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
I was forced to take a work experience kid out with me a few yrs ago.

I gave him an adjustable spanner and told him to loosen three nuts and walked back to the van.
When I returned, he was standing there looking at the spanner. I asked him what the problem was...he told me the spanner didnt fit.

I took him back to the office and the girls gave him some filing to do.

Useless cunt.

Willtell 4:15 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Very socialist eh Gavros? I wouldn't allow royalty any special privileges or payments after Liz pops her clogs mate. I'm all for the common man and democracy unlike the Marxist Labour party....

Gavros 4:12 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
maybe he mortgaged up on a few of the 30 properties his mum and dad gifted him Wullie?

Willtell 4:10 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
That's right Gavros. Didn't I reda that he raised £4m to start his company somewhere? Is that Bolty's level then?

How's your tea boy status going now Gavros? Have they put you in the post room yet...?

Gavros 4:03 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Euan Blair was gifted a job at Morgan Stanley after interning for them.

He was due to be parachuted into a safe labour seat until the blairites were routed.

Now running some shit apprenticeship firm.

I'd say he's found his level. Around Bolty's level.

stewie griffin 3:19 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
tbf, i wouldn't touch anything created by the BLAIR clan.

Lizard people

Block 3:17 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Shut up Kenzo, you soppy tit.

Mr Kenzo 3:16 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
*White Hat when I worked up town had an awful reputation.*

Bit like yourself

Block 3:14 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
White Hat when I worked up town had an awful reputation.

I do believe however they supply FACEBOOK with it's apprentices now, so this could all have changed.

QA Apprenticeships are excellent, we do a lot with them.

Monterey Jack Cheese 3:13 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Michael, your son should check out https://whitehat.org.uk/
a 'modern' approach to apprenticeships that I've seen popping up in a few places. Founder and CEO is Tony Blairs son, Euan.

University is great though if he's got good grades go and have some fun for a few years and get a better job after.

Sarge 3:11 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Block 2:42 Wed Aug 7
Sound advice.
Can't believe I've just typed that.


Plenty of opportunities for part-time study whilst working - a decent employer would help out with time and costs.

BRANDED 3:02 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
My experience of employing people has been that University allows a brain to develop certain abilities.This doesnt make people entrepreneurs or street sharp but it does mean they have plenty of skills that means they are just faster and sharper than non university people you might find.
However, the brightest person I ever had in my company was a 15 year old work experience kid from Eton who shat on pretty much everybody for speed and accuracy of thought process.

lufbra iron 2:57 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
major problem for Uni graduates, is that they want the world on a stick immediately because they have a degree (i was one of them)

thats especially apparant for grads between the age of 21-late 20's.

once they have a few years behind them, developed a bit of business acumen, often the combined intelligence and experience becomes useful for an employer and they can REAP in their 30's - 40's.
Provided the attitude is decent in the early years and firms dont fuck them off for being arrogant high maintenance cunts

stewie griffin 2:55 Wed Aug 7
Re: Advice please job hunting for a school leaver please
Our school and university system churns out unprecedented levels of illiterate fucktards who have meaningless qualifications that give them ideas beyond their station and a supremely over-inflated sense of self worth.

What a degree does do, is get you through the initial screening process - HR, like most people, are lazy, and if they have 500 applicants, it is far easier to eliminate 100/200 on the basis of not having a degree without even bothering to look at anything else. After that, you're on your own, with your personality and (in some cases) job specific knowledge being key differentiators.

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